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Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 12:59 pm
by aussieant32
I would love bees, however, its a communal garden where people exercise, eat lunch etc. Owners of the complex wouldn't allow it.

Ont thing I did think of is preserving some meat, plenty of space to build a little shed etc.

I also have access to 3 large rooftops, however, its a bit limited as to what I can get away with

Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:11 pm
by gnol
Put hives on the rooftops if you can. People won't even notice they are there.
They do that in Melbourne city. Never seen a bee in the city.

http://www.rooftophoney.com.au/

Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:30 pm
by aussieant32
I could always ask. Needs owners permission but you never know.

They will likely say no though as they won't see me tending to a bee hive as working productively :P

Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 2:47 pm
by gnol
aussieant32 wrote:I could always ask. Needs owners permission but you never know.

They will likely say no though as they won't see me tending to a bee hive as working productively :P
If you have access on the weekends and after hours it may work.
They are rather low maintenance.

Give the owners some honey.

Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 3:24 pm
by aussieant32
its owned by one of the biggest property companies in the world, they wont care about my honey :P

I have 24/7 access, explaining to a multi-billion dollar company I want to keep bees on the roof,however, isn't as straight forward as you might think..

If its going on the roof it either needs to be able to be fully enclosed, or go indoors

Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 3:46 pm
by niko123456
Another topic I'm keen on is imported charcoal vs sustainably managed local product.

In theory charcoal is carbon neutral. You cut down a tree, you burn what would have decayed, you grow a new tree etc.. but you don't want to be skipping the growing a new tree bit.

Which is why I'd love it if there was enough demand in Australia for a properly managed product.

Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 3:49 pm
by aussieant32
without knowing the answer, I buy Australian regardless. I am fortunate to not be far away from a decent bbq store that clearly indicates country of origin of their charcoal

Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 5:36 pm
by alimac23
Have any of you guys seen the new Flow Hive design?

You dont have to take the bee hive apart to harvest the honey, really cool design that's got the bee keeping world talking, literally honey on tap straight from the hive!

Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:04 pm
by gnol
alimac23 wrote:Have any of you guys seen the new Flow Hive design?

You dont have to take the bee hive apart to harvest the honey, really cool design that's got the bee keeping world talking, literally honey on tap straight from the hive!
Yes. Couldn't miss it. Really good idea and will hopefully open up bee keeping to a lot more people.

Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:16 pm
by Gumb
I may be wrong but hasn't the population of bees been disrupted by those bloody European wasps. They kill bees I think.

Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:52 pm
by urbangriller
Agricultural pesticides and fungicides are the biggest cause of Colony Collapse Disorder...but yes, the worlds bees are in trouble and that is trouble for food production.

Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:57 pm
by gnol
urbangriller wrote:Agricultural pesticides and fungicides are the biggest cause of Colony Collapse Disorder...but yes, the worlds bees are in trouble and that is trouble for food production.
As long as we have cows and sheep we'll be right. :| :| :|

Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:01 pm
by urbangriller
gnol wrote:
urbangriller wrote:Agricultural pesticides and fungicides are the biggest cause of Colony Collapse Disorder...but yes, the worlds bees are in trouble and that is trouble for food production.
As long as we have cows and sheep we'll be right. :| :| :|
If we can find Cattle and Sheep who don't need to eat. :cry:

Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:52 pm
by Narmnaleg
urbangriller wrote:If we can find Cattle and Sheep who don't need to eat.
Invest in goats. They'll eat anything....

Seriously though, this is why I try and not spray any of my vegie gardens. It does however become a battle between me and caterpillars, which I often lose.

I hope it makes you feel better to know that this summer I saw more bees than I've ever seen before. They "moved in" to my nextdoor neighbour's bathroom through the window. There were thousands of them... Apparently pretty common.

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Re: Sustainability

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:03 pm
by flyonline
Seriously consider a de-hydrator. I got an exalibur a year or so ago and use it all the time, but especially over summer/autumn for de-hydrating fruit in particular. I'm lucky enough to have a big orchard of mature fruit trees so I can pick and choose. It's dead simple, slice, dunk in a citric acid/water or lemon juice/water bath for 5 min, then dry. I don't use sugar, but have tried a honey/water bath which was nice, but I don't need any extra sugar so I skip it now. Put into a vac-bag they last ages and I simply take a full bag to work and grab a handful for smoko every day. Peaches are the best, but any stone or pome (apples, pears etc.) will do as will berries and other fruit, kale chips, bananas etc.

I used to make a lot of fruit leather, but I figure that it takes a lot more energy (both from me and electricity/gas) to make plus I really like being able to take a bag of stuff and pick off as I want. We've got a chest freezer, so I've taken to freezing whole berries and puree for use 'ron :wink: If you don't have access to growing fruit, then buy in bulk when they're on sale and in season.

Plus, you can start your yeast in them or raise your bread if it's cold, make yoghurt, jerky/bilton etc.