another s/s build

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hoddo
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another s/s build

Post by hoddo » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:46 pm

Hi,new guy here and I AM REALLY EXCITED, first to find this foum and second bcos this is my first smoker build.I would like this to be a hot /cold smoker.I hope you can advise me.This is the unit after striping out compressor
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I have started to strip it down to see what insulation is in it. Doors are foam so
taking that out
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some thinners takes all that glue off real nice.
Cut the top off and put some wheels on
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OK now I need advise, the stainless interior sits on a foam base
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I guess this is gonna have to support the weight of whats in the smoker. The foam is 75ml
thick so I thought hebel might be good replacement?
The plan so far is:
cold smoke source = Smoke Daddy magnum
heat = electric element and pid.. I am totally lost here, seems a pid from auberins might be the go but what model? Best element local?
box inside is 1.5m height 1m wide .6 deep
Some Questions;what insulation to repak with? is bunnings earthwool ok?
Vents.. maby a pipe with ball valve at the bottom?
the door seal oven rope or silicon..aussie suppliers?
hi temp silicon? any recomended brand or supplier?
thought i might use this flue from sausage maker? http://www.sausagemaker.com/41400andnbs ... amper.aspx
the racks are plastic coated but look like steel can i peel the plastic off and use them?


urbangriller
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Re: another s/s build

Post by urbangriller » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:34 am

Hi Hoddo, and welcome!

We love a good smoker build!

The plan so far is:
cold smoke source = Smoke Daddy magnum The Kiwi made Smokai is a good option, a bit more versatile: http://www.urbangriller.com/Smokai.html
heat = electric element and pid.. I am totally lost here, seems a pid from auberins might be the go but what model? Best element local? I'd talk to a local Commercial Kitchen equipment second hand supplier, you might be able to get the workings out of an old bread prover/proofer
box inside is 1.5m height 1m wide .6 deep
Some Questions;what insulation to repak with? is bunnings earthwool ok? Not sure what that is...pink batts maybe?
Vents.. maby a pipe with ball valve at the bottom? Air movement is important, You'll need an inlet and outlet.
the door seal oven rope or silicon..aussie suppliers? I use an Oven parts supplier, they have a flat glass tape that I use for sealing doors and as a kamado gasket. PM me if you can't find that, I have it by the roll.
hi temp silicon? any recomended brand or supplier?
thought i might use this flue from sausage maker? http://www.sausagemaker.com/41400andnbs ... amper.aspx That looks like the job, I've never found a flue with damper here!
the racks are plastic coated but look like steel can i peel the plastic off and use them? Have them Acid dipped, then plated.

Cheers
Chris
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Nath
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another s/s build

Post by Nath » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:48 am

Earth wool is a great product, it is bonded using a more natural process as apposed to standard glass wool insulation like pink batts. (Doesn't contain added formaldehyde, acrylics, bleaches etc, etc.
although I believe it also comes with an increased price tag.
It also will not encourage growth of mold, fungi and bacteria.
In essence they will both Do the same thing. Just check the "R values" and the thickness of the batt to find something you will be able to install in the walls. Can't wait to see the finished product!


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hoddo
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Re: another s/s build

Post by hoddo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:36 am

Thanks for the replys, Chris I already had ordered the smokedaddy before I even found the cabinet..the wonders of internet shopping after a few beers eh? lol. I am not really in a position to search for secondhand stuff so would like to source a new element,pid and ssr ,would appreciate any input on those items. I got hold of a brass 2" ball valve for the air in, will that be enough? For the flue I was going to get that one from sausagemakers but for the $12 item the freight was $50 so I might keep looking, do I need a damper on the flue if I can control air in with the ball valve? For the door gasket I am gonna try to source a fiberglass tadpole rope gasket from a Sydney supplier Associated Gaskets , let you know how that goes. for the shelves you suggest have them plated but in what ? Nath thanks for feedback on earthwool I have removed all the foam and replaced with earthwool. For the base I used the 75mm hebel blocks, they fit perfect and now this fridge has a base like a pizza oven good thermal mass?

titch
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Re: another s/s build

Post by titch » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:01 am

The Magnum will serve you well.
When its puffing away you can turn the air pump off and it will chug away all night.
What temp is the Earthwool safe to?
cheers
Cheers
Titch

hoddo
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Re: another s/s build

Post by hoddo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:30 pm

Hey Tich, Couldn't find much on the earthwool but your generic rock and glass wool is good in the 200-500 C range. Chips or Chunks for the Magnum? I have a few logs of Pecan I was thinking of putting thru a chipper.

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Re: another s/s build

Post by titch » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:00 pm

I use pellets in mine with some sawdust. so a fine chip I believe.
Thanks on the Wool.
A few small pieces of Charcoal gets the magnum going quickly
Cheers.

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Cheers
Titch

hoddo
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Re: another s/s build

Post by hoddo » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:27 am

Those snags look great, I hope to get into a bit of sausage making. After no success trawling the net for a flu, I went to a local sheet metal shop and they whipped up this neat100mm flu kit for me. All stainless,300mm high $90. Should I cut it shorter, does flu length make much difference as this will be heated by electric element? Any suggestion on the element size, wattage, type ect. would be appreciated, the cabinet is about 1.5 cubic meters. Door gasket is turning out to be a bit tricky, found some very nice ones here http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format ... 2279459648 but when I tried to order it they refused to sell to Australia, and were kinda rude about it also. I think I am onto a silicone stove gasket that will attach the same as the old fridge seal, its out of stock so waiting on that. Cheers till nxt update



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titch
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Re: another s/s build

Post by titch » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:37 am

That's a neat looking Flue.
I used seal from BBQ galore, self adhesive and works a treat.
Big Green Egg seal if I remember
Cheers
Titch

urbangriller
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Re: another s/s build

Post by urbangriller » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:24 pm

If it is the Tadpole gasket you want, check these guys: http://www.industrialgaskets.com.au/?pa ... 11&print=1

Nice Flue....and the right price!

Chris
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hoddo
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Re: another s/s build

Post by hoddo » Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:39 pm

That's a good link Chris, I got a quote from a similar mob in Sydney and it was over $300. I will get a quote from your link, in the meantime I took titch's advice and went to BBQ galore and got some fiberglass rope and adhesive, will do a test. They didn't have the self adhesive one titch. Because of the two large doors I need 8 metres of gasket and if it sticks on well it will work out at $80, so big saving.
Chris any word on the new Maveric stock?

hoddo
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Re: another s/s build

Post by hoddo » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:02 pm

A few pics of progress
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urbangriller
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Re: another s/s build

Post by urbangriller » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:40 pm

Love your work...that's looking nice!

Chris
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hoddo
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Re: another s/s build

Post by hoddo » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:27 am

Thanks Chris, mavricks arrived also thanks. Working on the doors and a blower for the air intake so I can use the cabinet as a dehydrator as well. Almost ready to heat it up, any advice on how to season it?

hoddo
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Re: another s/s build

Post by hoddo » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:31 am

Got the doors on fiberglass rope is a great fit
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put an air blower on it so I can make jerky and dried stuff
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Got some pecan logs and put them through a mates chipper.. this should keep me going for a while also
went and visited Emberpac and got some nice charcoal for starting the smoke daddy.
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Turned it on and set it to 250 f got there in about 40 min looked like it would go hotter
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just the shelves and some drip trays to go and I'm cooking


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