Resting in Esky.

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Resting in Esky.

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Assuming your cooking in a weber Q?
You could use a foil tray beneath the trivet providing you have enough height, and it would need to be strong enough to hold the trivet and bird.



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did the turkey tonight. started cooking at 1pm and reached 78° around 5pm. to rest, wrapped it in foil and left it for an hour and a half. was beautiful, the whole bird was eaten (5kg).

going to set my sights on going a roast pork loin soon. might have to take off the crackling to finish it off. any tips for a good crackling?
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Rather than start a new thread on resting, I will ask my questions here.
I've read with great interest here about the double wrapped foil, towels in the esky and buried in the sandpit (I exaggerate) method for roasts etc
but why this 'loosely tented' method for steak?
Why not a tight wrap? Is steak the only thing that requires loose tenting rest?
What about chicken legs?
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If you tightly wrap, it will continue cooking to a point, so your perfectly cooked steak will come out of the rest over cooked.
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Part of the trick with steak is taking it off before the desired doneness, as it's generally cooked on an extremely hot surface it's not uncommon for the steak to increase 5 or 6 degrees C in the resting.

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That's simple enough. So it's expected that a fair amount of juice will still pool on the plate after a few minutes resting?
Thanks guys, just sorting out a few things I often wonder about
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Some cooks don't recomend tenting at all, Just resting in a warm spot.
That's all well and good if you have a Bain Marie or a warm spot.
Tenting is a compromise to keep warm and narrows the rise in doneness a little.
I use it if I'm not quite ready for the meat and add the tent after the temp of the steak has peaked just to slow it down from going cold. An Instant read thermopen comes into its own here.
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Hud wrote:That's simple enough. So it's expected that a fair amount of juice will still pool on the plate after a few minutes resting?
Thanks guys, just sorting out a few things I often wonder about
Juice comes about by way of the cooking method and if the meat was frozen.
If you reverse sear a previously unfrozen prime steak, You should have bugger all leakage.
I reciently did a test on two rib eyes from the same primal, One seared then rested , the other reverse seared with little resting.
The difference was chalk and cheese.
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Smokey wrote:
Hud wrote:That's simple enough. So it's expected that a fair amount of juice will still pool on the plate after a few minutes resting?
Thanks guys, just sorting out a few things I often wonder about
Juice comes about by way of the cooking method and if the meat was frozen.
If you reverse sear a previously unfrozen prime steak, You should have bugger all leakage.
I reciently did a test on two rib eyes from the same primal, One seared then rested , the other reverse seared with little resting.
The difference was chalk and cheese.
And remember Route 66, if you take the meat above 66C you destroy the cellular structure and the meat juices will leak out. Under 66 and the cellular structure is intact and you loose liquid only out of those cells you cut through.

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I have never used a thermometer on steak. Looks like I need a thermapen! :mrgreen:
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Post by werewolf »

urbangriller wrote:
bennos wrote:Got my 5kg turkey and it's now drowning in a brine solution (using an Esky with ziplocked bags of ice for this big bird).

I'm going to do the technique of wrapping foil and tea towel and then putting it in an esky to rest for 2 hours. Sounds wise! I'm a big fan of resting my steaks and meats but never tried in the esky for more then 10 minutes. Get your esky Hot with Hot water or a Hot water bottle before you rest.

I'll pull out the turkey from the weber after it hits a temp just before "cooked"... leads in to the question. What is the done temp (ºC please)? 83º C? So pull it out at around 78ºC It's Just a big Chook, so 80ish in the thigh is good 75ish for the breast.

What is the best part to insert the gauge? Into the breast from the top near the middle The thickest part of the breast, so yes! also do the joint between the thigh and the main body.

What do you do about all the excess fat and moisture dripping out through the foil with holes poked into it, Can you use a higher side tray, still causes indirect cooking, Not following this? are we talking about resting or when its cooking...what holes in the foil?
OK time for my beginner question of the day. Why take turkey/chook up to 80. The NSW food safe page I found elsewhere on this forum says 74 for poultry. Confused.

My meat thermometer goes even higher, 82 for fresh turkey. I have been using the 74 mark but now worried I might poison someone...

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Post by Muppet »

Anyone who posts on chicken temps or writes it publicly will errrr on the safe side. It's impossible for someone else to know what hygiene practices have been followed or where your food came from.

Not much help for your question I know but with cleanliness and a trusted food source I go lower than what you have stated. When you have done a few cooks and have a tool like a thermapen you can find your happy point.


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I should also add that whole birds are pushed higher to get the thigh area cooked, That's my problem spot with whole birds.


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Mmmm cheers guys. Tricky one I guess

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